Post by jahatch28 on Feb 20, 2020 13:59:00 GMT
Howdy -
Played 3 great game yesterday after watching a lot of videos and reading through rules twice.
2 Questions came up...
When measuring the Radius of effects... is it different for a grenade vs a Suppression or Opportunity fire marker?
It seemed liked Grenades effect a radius of 2" or 4" from the center of point of where the grenade would land.
While it seems like you measure Suppression or Opportunity Fire auras from the edge of the Suppression or Opportunity Fire Marker (so a 2u measurement from the edges of the 25mm marker).
Is that correct? Or are both measured from the center point? Or both from the edges?
And then a follow up...
Is a Fragmentation Grenade REALLY affecting an 8" diameter circle (or 9" diameter if measured from the edge of the token!)
On a 2'x2' table... that is an enormous blast!
I get that the Frag Grenade is only fully reliable at up to 5u... and it does take 2 AP to throw... plus it costs extra points... and it is risky to throw it only a lit bit further as it could bounce back towards you... and enemies can Take Cover vs the blast.. so I'm not saying I have an issue with it... but I had one chance for my US Paratrooper to sprint up 10" and throw a Frag Grenade at the top of Turn 2 that could have hit 3 Germans!!! So then we of course had to re-read the section as it seemed like a huge blast.
I then of course only rolled one 5+... but the fact that I could have (with better dice) wounded 3 Germans on Turn 2 seemed powerful! Of course, then my Paratrooper was really close to the enemy... so maybe not the best tactic!
I also guess that if you manage to catch 2 or 3 models in the blast radius of the Frag Grenade then you are less likely to do multiple wounds (as they are divided up evenly)... so trying to remove a single target is easier with a Concussion Grenade while wounding multiple models further away from each other is easier with a Fragmentation Grenade. But anyway, just checking if we were measuring correctly from the center point of grenades, but edge of Suppression/Opportunity Markers.
Thanks!
Played 3 great game yesterday after watching a lot of videos and reading through rules twice.
2 Questions came up...
When measuring the Radius of effects... is it different for a grenade vs a Suppression or Opportunity fire marker?
It seemed liked Grenades effect a radius of 2" or 4" from the center of point of where the grenade would land.
While it seems like you measure Suppression or Opportunity Fire auras from the edge of the Suppression or Opportunity Fire Marker (so a 2u measurement from the edges of the 25mm marker).
Is that correct? Or are both measured from the center point? Or both from the edges?
And then a follow up...
Is a Fragmentation Grenade REALLY affecting an 8" diameter circle (or 9" diameter if measured from the edge of the token!)
On a 2'x2' table... that is an enormous blast!
I get that the Frag Grenade is only fully reliable at up to 5u... and it does take 2 AP to throw... plus it costs extra points... and it is risky to throw it only a lit bit further as it could bounce back towards you... and enemies can Take Cover vs the blast.. so I'm not saying I have an issue with it... but I had one chance for my US Paratrooper to sprint up 10" and throw a Frag Grenade at the top of Turn 2 that could have hit 3 Germans!!! So then we of course had to re-read the section as it seemed like a huge blast.
I then of course only rolled one 5+... but the fact that I could have (with better dice) wounded 3 Germans on Turn 2 seemed powerful! Of course, then my Paratrooper was really close to the enemy... so maybe not the best tactic!
I also guess that if you manage to catch 2 or 3 models in the blast radius of the Frag Grenade then you are less likely to do multiple wounds (as they are divided up evenly)... so trying to remove a single target is easier with a Concussion Grenade while wounding multiple models further away from each other is easier with a Fragmentation Grenade. But anyway, just checking if we were measuring correctly from the center point of grenades, but edge of Suppression/Opportunity Markers.
Thanks!
10 u is twice that, but still so close that is pretty hard to botch a throw, try... also remember that these people went through a training course that teach them exactly how to do it, and the average soldier was expected to be capable to throw a hand grenade at a distance of 40 to 50 meters. That's 30 to 40 u in scale. It's reasonable to expect that they could manage to do reliably at least a third of that. Also, because the indirect trajectory a grenade is thrown, visibility and line of sight are not very important... if you know or even only suspect there is an enemy you can easily throw a grenade on the other side of a wall even if you can not see them and do not know what's on the other side...